The interesting part of this debate is that there isn’t a very clear way to look at these rounds next to each other without talking about their host guns. Lucky Gunner has some good bulk ammo deals online — their lowest priced 9mm ammo cost 14.9¢ per round while their cheapest .38 Special ammo cost 25.5¢ per round. BBTI settled this already. You know what they don’t try to squash? Snubs fit better in a front pocket, and I can draw them faster from concealment.
While those 9mm bullets would expand to similar diameters, they would not make the same gaping hole as those .38 Special full wadcutters because the 9mm bullets would have significantly rounded edges. If it becomes popular, I imagine Johnny will come up with conversion kits for other 9mm semi-auto handguns on the market, the same thing he did with his older, more successful .460 Rowland offering. Yes, I know that modern autos are great, but the revolver doesn’t need recoil to operate and instead is powered by your finger. I like both, but they aren’t typically interchangeable in recipes. The .357 was a collaborative development in the early 1930s based on the .38. The .38 Special is, almost universally, a revolver cartridge (though it can be used successfully in some lever action rifles).
All other things being equal i.e. Ok, I thought of another downside that is significant. 9mm jhp 37 hits 72-260 cents a round Accuracy of shooting is dependent more on the skill of the shooter than the cartridge or gun. (Think of a water-jet cutter.)
“A disadvantage (of revolvers) to automatics is that they can have more complicated stoppages that require both hands to clear.” Unique powder drives 170 grain hardcast at 900 fps In general, a 9mm pistol will be able to fire similar sized bullets slightly faster. I have the LCR 38 +P and I recently acquired a pristine S&W model 940 (steel frame Centennial in 9mm) which I haven’t fired yet. If you want to try it, do it at your own risk — we cannot be held liable in the event of a catastrophic failure.
Demand dictates supply, so less ammo is getting manufactured.
This section shows yet another win for the 9mm. It would have faded a long time ago if it was no longer effective.
Pick what’s best for you and get comfortable with it, be it a GLOCK 43 or a Smith & Wesson 642. A better comparison might be .38SPL vs. .380ACP. Now, I sometimes carry a snub as backup to the LCP. Can’t find 9mm or .357 in the right load?
Personally, I am not worried about over-penetration from full wadcutters at close range and would take those in a heartbeat over other .38 Special bullet designs. They are also used to hunt small game including deer, and for target shooting. As an example, both standard pressure 9mm rounds and .38 are typically found with 124/125gr bullet weights. If someone manufactures such a cartridge which does reliably expand at such low velocities, let me know because I want to buy it! Gun weight is less than one lb (bit less than a comparable 9) for those hikers counting ounces Third, almost everyone thinks (whether right or wrong) that hollowpoints are the best possible bullet design so that is where the market is and that is what ammunition manufacturers produce. http://ballisticsbytheinch.com/9luger.html In comparison to 9mm, .357 Sig is a baby.
Join the bandwagon today! And the minor disadvantage of the 9mm LCR is that it requires moon clips for a practical reload. Also, if you own (or you’re planning to purchase) a Glock 19, you might want to look into the .960 Rowland conversion. 38 revolver may be pressed into a body and fired time and again and will not jam, Buffalo Bore 158 grain lead +P over 1000 fps in two inch barrel if you can handle, steel frame only There’s always .38+P, and with a 5in. Easy to carry and put to use…..until you need to reload…then it’s a bit fussy. The .357 Magnum cartridge will not headspace in a revolver chambered solely for the .38 Special because of the longer overall length of the .357 Magnum cartridge’s case.
Many people do not want such limited range. Yes, I know that modern autos are great, but the revolver doesn’t need recoil to operate and instead is powered by your finger. Older revolvers and even some newer but cheaply made .38 Special revolvers (like those manufactured by companies like Rock Island Armory) cannot use overpressure .38 Special +P ammo because of their weak metallurgy and brittle cylinder/frame material (e.g. Since 38 Special is a direct descendant of 19th century black powder revolver cartridges, I think we should look at what worked back then: longer barrels and heavier bullets. 9mm Assorted 124 SP 1120 345. I’ve had both and sold them.
It isn’t really possible to avoid the revolver vs. semi-auto thing in this discussion. DUAL-CALIBER REVOLVER VS. CONVERTIBLE SEMI-AUTO. All too often there’s a mental disconnect between the numbers and reality, and in many cases the numbers are skewed to make one cartridge look “better” than another it ostensibly competes against. With its rising popularity, the .38 Special began to be manufactured with smokeless powder loadings. If you read this far, you should follow us: ".357 Magnum vs .38 Special." This can be difficult for some people to master. Revolvers can be loaded with speedloaders, but they aren’t nearly as fast and easy as magazines. History of .357 Sig vs. 9mm. I’ll need to make up some dummy rounds consisting of fired brass and seated bullets, since I kinda don’t want to play around with live rounds. barreled 686-2 the ballistics are comparable with the right round.
Sources: And as such, demand for the .38 Special is on a steady decline. 5.7 is faster, shinier, prettier, and newer then either of these old fudd rounds. That’s arguably the most important reason most folks won’t use them for defense purposes–they want to carry autoloaders.
If you are accustomed to using speedloaders, then moon clips can shave a mite of time off your reload.
Anything that gives them more power to control us. Check their respective weights on the company’s website. In stark contrast, fewer and fewer revolvers in general (and those chambered for the .38 Special in particular) are getting manufactured. Looking forward to trying .38/.357 when ammo becomes available again (I have a boatload of 9). But in the 1930’s, Elmer Keith and S&W loaded the .38 Special to near-.357 power levels in the S&W .38/44 revolver before there was a .357 Magnum.
Hoiwever, the .38 Special is especially renowned for its accuracy.
We’ll just say that the extra half inch accounts for any cylinder gap loss. Next week: 8mm Berthier vs. 11mm Mauser.
I am not aware of any .380ACP pistol w/ a 7″ barrel. I’ve heard that some people ream the cylinder of stronger .38 Special revolvers (mostly Rugers and older Smiths) while others install a stronger cylinder to accept higher-pressure magnum rounds.
Everybody will say “shot placement”.
While technically, the .357 Magnum is a .38 Special (just one that’s on steroids) being it’s essentially the same cartridge (only differences are it can push the same .357-inch diameter bullet at much faster velocities and its longer case is rated for twice the SAAMI pressure the .38 Special can handle: 35,000 psi, coincidentally the same SAAMI spec as that of the 9mm’s), as far as revolver prices a .357 Magnum revolver isn’t a .38 Special revolver. Note that the Coonan compact version is .357 Magnum-only.
.38 cartridges can be fired from revolvers chambered for the .357, but the converse is not true; .357 cartridges cannot be used in revolvers designed for the .38. One interesting thing to think about when it comes to comparing handgun calibers is the concept of caliber conversion. Edit or create new comparisons in your area of expertise.
Picked up a Taurus 692 recently which shoots both with easily switchable wheels. 5.7 x 28 is an unappreciated little round but not very common – or cheap.
Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Taurus, and Charter Arms all manufacture such revolvers. I think the .38 Special is still very relevant today, despite the fact that the 9mm easily dominates virtually every single field of the market from pocket pistols to duty guns.
You can’t beat a SIG239 or 225 and couple spare magazines.
G-19 for serious carry. Gotta monkey with the loaded and partially spent moon clip, or replace it with a full one and place the partial in your pocket, for later messing around. On the whole, revolvers are substantially more reliable than semi-automatics.
(Tissue is surprisingly stretchy.)
Here’s a comparison that looks pretty close. 380 ACP Assorted 90 JHP 1000 200.
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